Fishing Report on the Tuck

June 1st, 2013

This past Wednesday and Thursday Eric Davis and I went up to the ‘Tuck with NASCAR. The generation schedule was supposed to be favorable and the DH is drawing to a close. On Wednesday we were greeted with pretty high water, which kept the dry fly action down (although we heard that around dust it was great).

Eric got 4 on a dry (Eric calls it 3 and 1/2 because one was a chub). Nascar did pretty good with 20 something. I worked hard to get a dozen. The lightning bug, small black stonefly, and soft hackle hare’s ear were the flies to have. The next day we were disappointed to find the generation schedule had changed and we were fighting high water all day. Slow fishing but I did manage 9-10. Both Eric and Nascar caught fish, and again the soft hackle hare’s ear, lightning bug and small black stone fly were the flies to have.

The fishing was so slow on the ‘Tuck that Seahunt and I hit Buford Dam on Saturday. It started out as slow as the ‘Tuck but really picked up in the afternoon. I know we had numbers in the high 20’s and the flies to have were again the soft-hackled hare’s ear and the copperhead soft hackle. I fished dry-dropper all day and even got a couple on the Stimi Caddis Hopper. There were enough risers that I think if you had targeted them with a dry, you would have gotten some action.


Bob “NASCAR” Chambliss called Ed Chamberlain and I and asked us to go fishing this past Friday (3/23). The phone conversation with NASCAR went about the same with both Ed and I.

NASCAR (excited)-Hello, lets go fishing on Friday.
ED-That sounds good, how about we go to the Chattooga? I have heard that the dry fly action has been picking up on the
NASCAR (a bit petulant)-Chattooga? But that is so far away.
Ed-NASCAR, it is not that far.
NASCAR (a bit whiny)-But the Soque has bigger fish.
Ed-Yes, but you can get wild fish on the Chattooga.
NASCAR (a bit whiny)-But the Soque has bigger fish.
Ed-But NASCAR, I hear the March Browns and Quill Gordons are coming off on the Chattooga.
NASCAR (a bit whiny)-But the Soque has bigger fish.

Needless to say, the conversation continued the same way and it resulted with Ed Chamberlain, Mike “Copperhead” Williams, Phil “Seahunt” Seheuk, and I traveling to the Chattooga while NASCAR went to the Soque-I think.

Mike Williams Brown Trout on the Chatooga River

We walked into the Chattooga hoping for a warming, nice day to encourage dry fly activity but no-it felt pretty raw and cold and even had some rain. I was discouraged especially since I was focused on dry fly fishing. My interest peaked when I saw Copperhead fishing the Railroad Hole and I saw him hook what looked like a big one. As I watched it really was a big one and I stopped to see him fight and land it. I was not disappointed (nor was Copperhead) when he landed a 20 inch bow big boy on a Sawyer PT. It was an impressive fish and was worth Ed taking several pictures of it.

I headed up to the Camping Hole and found Seahunt fishing it. He was having a good day with 10 or more fish on including a 15-16 inch fish. He was having most of his success on a y2k. I was struggling at this time due to the fact I was being stubborn and fishing dries, even though I was freezing-it is Spring doggone it!

I headed up the the Bank and all of a sudden, they started hitting the dry and it was sweet. Got some nice fish in the 14 to 15 inch range. It had me laughing to myself. After having a great day catching fish on a dry (I guess 22-24 fish) I headed back downstream and met Ed and Copperhead and got some more big fish stories.

Ed was fishing this hole (you will understand why I will not name it) when a huge rainbow hit his Sawyer PT. Ed estimated it as around 25 inches and he knew the size of the fish because it jumped. But due to the size of the fish, 6x tippet, not bowing when it jumped, or it broke the tippet on rock, Ed lost the fish. But it was a wonderful experience and the biggest trout Ed has ever hooked. Ed’s feeling were not too hurt by the big fish because he had a good day with several fish in the 14-16 inch range. And the big fish stories do not end there. Copperhead was fishing above Ed when he hooked a brown that was the equal or bigger to the 20 inch bow he landed. Unfortunately the big boy got away. But Copperhead was walking upstream he saw a true monster making a wake in the water. If you have ever seen a big brown chasing a fish to eat it, you will not forget it, and this is what Copperhead saw.

All in all, it was a magical day, the kind of day you remember and chuckle about for no particular reason other that it was one of those “one of the best days ever”. Maybe not as big a fish on the Soque, but pretty close!

Fly recommendation-As for nymphs, the y2k and Sawyer PT were great. As Ed put it-I got the smaller stockers on the y2k and the bigger wild or hold-over fish on the Sawyer PT. As for dries-the March Brown was great and I also would try a Quill Gordon and tan caddis. I must mention a new fly that I am extremely impressed with-the low rider nymph. This is a Jason Borger fly that is fished like a dry. Have you seen rises but no matter what you put on, you can’t get a hit? The low rider is an imitation of a nymph, but a nymph that is on surface about to transform. This fly has become a go-to fly for me, especially when I want to use dries to fish.


You guys REALLY know how to hurt a guy! Glad you had a great trip. I have been promising for two years I would take this guy in my church to the Soque and when he called to say he was free Friday I couldn’t say no. I really owed him as he was the one who, as a former Delta guy, contacted a Delta VP who finally (it took a week!) got my luggage to me in Nova Scotia last year. Before JD’s report I was thinking I am getting too old for a one day trip to the Chattooga. I am definitely rethinking that!!!! Attached is a brief video of Cody on the Soque. I’M READY FOR THE CHATTOOGA!!!!!

Mike Williams Brown Trout on the Chatooga River

Mike Williams Brown Trout on the Chatooga River

South Mills – Fly Fishing Western NC

Type: Wild Trout, Open Year Round

Access: Follow US 276 West thru Pisgah National Forest, approximately 12 miles, go past Cradle of Forestry and the Pink Beds.  Take Headwaters roads to the right off US 276 West for approximately 2.5 miles.  When the roads fork, take the right fork and continue to the parking lot.  Follow trail to stream.

Description: Small stream is headwaters of Mills River.  Excellent fishing with many pockets and runs.  Well worth the effort.

Flies: Standard patterns

Pressure: Medium fishing pressure on weekends.

For more information:

GoPro Fishing

Had a minute to check emails on the road stopping at a Barnes & Noble (nearly finished current read with days to go plus all week next week vacationing with Katie at the Crater of Diamonds!).  Saw the latest Midcurrent.  I am never interested in all their topics, but I scan them for articles of potential interest.

I will admit to generally passing over video references.  I am not big into watching films of someone doing what I WISH I were doing instead of reading about or watching it.  But with my latest acquisition of the GoPro…so I can, you know, take videos knowing that everyone else in the flyfishing world wants to see mine, of course…I backed up and decided to take a look at the flyfishing film techniques article.

I figured I would look through it to see if there were any videography tips I could incorporate to make my first efforts more creditable.  I should have known when I opened it and read the by line of Hank Patterson that I should skip it and get back on the road.  But the guy is just too funny.  I had to watch it.  If there isn’t one already, I am considering starting the “Crazy Reese” Fan Club.  These guys crack me up.

Tyson Reed

Midcurrent Hank Patterson on Fly Fishing 101

White Top Laurel

Several club members attended the recent trip led by our notorious Trip Leader JD Forrester.  Milton Sams, Ed Chamberlin, Phil Sehenuk, Dave Lash and I traveled to far southwest Virginia in search of good times, good fishing and good food.  Luckily, none were in short supply.  We planned on being there from April 22nd through the 28th.  While not all folks were able to be there the whole week, everyone seemed to enjoy themselves.  Time makes its demands on us all (some un-retired folks more than our retired brothers…) so we were fortunate to have as many as we did for as long as we did.  This is especially true given the distance by car.  It took most of us 5 ½ to 6 hours to get there.  Believe me when I say, it was worth the trip.

White Laurel JD Forrester

The primary fishing location was White Top Laurel Creek in Virginia.  The creek flows into Tennessee and all areas fished well.  By fishing well, I mean that a 15 fish day was about as slow as it got.  There were certainly several folks that exceeded twice that.  Having said that, the river was not giving up her fish easily.  The mornings were generally cold (upper 30’s to low 40’s) and the afternoons would get into the 60’s and 70’s.  You all know what that means…  The mornings were spent either straight nymphing or using a dry dropper combination.  While you can’t call the catching active, everyone caught fish before lunch.  On several afternoon sessions, risers were seen and switching to dry flies proved effective.  As far as nymphs go, the Hare’s Ear, a BH prince, and a soft hackle seemed to work consistently well.  Light Cahill’s, Adam’s and March Browns were good flies for the afternoons.   Highlight fish of the trip were JD’s 18 inch Brown caught on a Hare’s Ear and my 15 inch Rainbow on a Light Cahill.  The majority of the fish in this creek were in the 9-12” range.  JD got the Smokey Mountain Slam on Friday with Brook/Brown/Bow.  That was the only Brookie I heard about being caught on the trip.  Other fishing opportunities awaited on the Beaver Dam, Laurel Creek and the Middle or South Fork of the Holsten.  There is so much un-crowded water that we never left the White Top Laurel.

White Laurel JD Forrester

Let me take a minute to describe the river we fished.  By Blue Ridge/Smokey Mountain standards the White Top Laurel is big.  Many places were 30 to 40 feet across with lots of pocket water, long deep runs and lots of riffles.  The banks of both sides of the river are dense with Rhododendron and Mountain Laurel.  We were probably a couple of weeks away from full bloom, but I can imagine that would be quite a sight to see at the right time in the Spring.  Along one side of the river was the Virginia Creeper Trail which is a highly successful Rails to Trails project that coincidentally was land donated by my employer.  The trail is gorgeous and gave easy access to the river while making for comfortable hiking as well.  Dave brought his bike so he was covering a lot of ground in a short time.  While there is a lot of overhang that provided good shade to much of the river, it wasn’t so much that it made casting a nightmare.  I will say that JD was not unhappy that everyone was losing flies at a 6-8 per day rate.  I know he will get an order for replacements from me.  The Appalachian Trail came through much of the areas we fished so we ran into a lot of outdoorsmen.  The closest town, Damascus VA is known for its support of the trail and the hikers that walk it.  As a result, there were some decent places to eat, and good outfitters.  Despite anything JD may say, there is a well stocked fly shop close to Abingdon called the Virginia Creeper Fly Shop.  The proprietor, Bruce is both knowledgeable and a genuine pleasure to talk to.

I believe these trips are one of the major things that separates our club from so many others like it.  To say the least it can be difficult to throw together individuals with divergent backgrounds and tastes and expect then to get along well.  Without exception, every trip I have been fortunate enough to go on has been a real pleasure.  This trip was just like that.  Everyone pitched in on the cooking, cleaning and the most important part, stories and drinks around the campfire.

Special thanks to JD for pulling the trip together in the first place and ensuring we had more delicious breakfast than we could possibly eat.  No thanks to Seahunt for the hamburger he didn’t cook Ed and I just because of a little rain.  Nothing like processed ham on a piece of bread when your mouth is watering for a burger grilled in the woods…  Thanks to Ed for the scrumptious Red Beans and Rice with Keilbasa we had on Tuesday.  No thanks to Kubota for making me drag an extra tent all the way to Virginia on the chance that he might join us (we missed you dude!).  Dave, Thanks for the Thai Shrimp Stir Fry.  We ate like kings.

Do yourself a favor and get on one of these trips.  You will have a blast and possibly make some new friends, learn some new fishing tricks and store some long term good memories.

Michael W. Greene

First of all I want to thank Mike “MGD” Greene for the great write up. He was completely true in what he said except for the fly shop. I must warn you that if MGD or Ed Chamberlain go searching for a fly shop, it would be best for you to go another way!

We had a fantastic time together and White Top Laurel did nothing to change my mind as the best wild trout stream in the Southeast. In fact, I think we were 2 to 3 weeks too early or it would have been mostly a dry fly time. Still it was a great time on the stream. For example, you see a large rock in the middle of the stream and it looks like good holding water is on the right. If I can just put the fly above the rock and get a 12 inch drift beside the rock, then maybe something would give the fly a look. Luckily for me I got a good drift and bam, got a 14 inch brown. It doesn’t get any better than that!

The only thing wrong with the trip wrong with the trip is we did not have more people. (Kubota, where for art thou? Are you alive?) You are really missing out on fun by not going on one of these trips.


May is a good time for mayflies on the Chattahoochee?

While mayflies hatch year-round on the Chattahoochee the month of May is when anglers can expect to see the first great emergence of larger mayflies like Light Cahills, Quill Gordons and Hendricksons to name a few. These three species occur in better numbers  on the lower river downstream of Morgan Falls Dam but do also exist in sparse  population densities extending upstream on the 35miles north to Buford Dam.

From Morgan Fall Dam  down to Paces Mill anglers should be prepared to imitate adults with dry flies as the hatch cranks up with trout often keying in on one size and one color. On the upper reach it is best to imitate the nymph stage with larger pheasant tail nymphs in #12 down to #16 hook sizes.

The Chattahoochee River tail-water has approximately twelve species of mayflies which include all four behavior types or styles of this species in the larval stage which include burrowers, crawlers, clingers and swimmers. These behavior types will help anglers narrow down their selection process while choosing the right nymph and fly fishing tactic. Matching the Hatch by Ernest G. Schwiebert, Jr. is an excellent guide to mayfly hatches and tactics in North America.

As a good general rule of thumb if you see mayflies on the surface but no fish rising it is best to try to match as close to the size of those adults with a nymph imitation with an initial “dead-drift” then a final swing or “Leisenring Lift” as your fly quarters downstream . When fish begin rising you will likely see these larger more visible mayflies actually get eaten by the fish which will allow you to make an obvious choice to switch to dry flies.

Tight lines, Chris Scalley

Club member Gregg Goff competes in Trout Tournament

I was in Helen, GA, March 29th and 30th (Friday and Saturday).  The town’s annual trout tournament (24th overall) was held Saturday 6 a.m. to 2 p.m.  Tagged trout were worth $500, $250, $100, $50, and $25.  The higher the dollar value, the fewer trout were tagged.  No one caught the sole $500 tagged trout.  So, next year’s jackpot will be worth $1000 (rollover with this year’s $500 jackpot).

At check-in time, there was one $250 trout, one $50 trout, and about 10 $25 trout.  I was one of the “$25 trout” anglers.  Something is better than nothing. All tagged trout were rainbows a minimum of three (3) pounds!  Thank you Tellico Trout Farm in Tellico, NC.

I will spare the many details of the layout of the tournament format.  I consider it worth noting that the tagged trout are stocked at different points in the Chattahoochee River in Helen after midnight the morning of the tournament so that no angler knows the exact location of the fish.  Untagged trout, rainbows and brookies, were stocked the day before by the Georgia DNR to assure plenty of fish would be caught (brown trout would be caught, too).  Only tagged trout (again, all tagged trout were rainbows) needed be brought to the check-in.

The one I caught was a 20-incher between three and four pounds.  I gave it away to a family since I was not able to keep it alive at check-in time.  Otherwise I would have clipped the tag and released it.  I kept it alive till check-in time, but then it died for being out of the water for so long.  🙁

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It was a lot of fun.  Admittedly, I did not know what to expect since this was my first competitive fishing tournament.

Everybody around you looks at you when you hook a fish!  Everybody wants to hold it, touch it, get close up view of it, especially the kids and teenagers.  I do not mind.  Showing your catch at a tournament is part of the fun.

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Toccoa River – Fishing Report

I have made a few trips recently on parts of the Toccoa River above the lake. I was able to really take advantage of the full DH section with the last trip starting way upstream a few miles above VanZandt’s Store by using the little 12′ Stealthcraft driftboat. My first two outings were for two to three hours on Saturday and Sunday about three weeks ago. It was only my second time to use the boat while fishing, so there were still some learning experiences…all passed safely and with no YouTube evidence. Both days I managed to catch quite a few rainbows, brooks and a few browns. Despite it being a weekend with many other waders, I was able to hit less wading accessible waters AND NOT hit any waders. I admit, I did have visions of my hitting waders like bowling pins as I ineptly floated at the mercy of the river. But I managed pretty well only bumping a submerged rock once or twice each day.

But the best day came last Thursday, March 28th. Rob Kissel drive down a day early for his pending Chile fishing trip and met me in Blue Ridge. The guys in the rod and flyshops suggested that with my little boat, the flows were sufficient to put in above VanZandt’s and take out at Sandy Bottom Canoe Launch. After Rob spent some time with Bill Oyster “test” casting Bill’s new bamboo proto-type (a HOLLOW bamboo rod), we finally left for the river.

Rob Kissel

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As the guys said, the water above the DH held and/or produced fewer fish, but it would have opportunities for perhaps bigger fish. The DH section would have numbers of fish. When Rob would occasionally have to re-tie, I would pull out my 6wt sink tip and dredge the deep channels. This rainbow was 21″. Rob managed this nice one just a bit later. THEN he hooked into a fish I told him he couldn’t land because he didn’t have a salmon tag. Unfortunately as he tried to get it to the net boatside, it broke off. It had to be at least four or five inches bigger than mine. After that he kept saying, “This was fun. We gotta do this again.” True to the guys’ words, we didn’t get very many above the DH, but they were some hosses. The wind picked up, the clock spun fast, and we ended up rowing through a lot of water to get to the DH section in good light. Strangely, as warm as it was we never saw rising fish. Next time!

Tyson Reed

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Tyson Reed
AFFC Membership Chairman

Atlanta Fly Fishing Club Mentor Program

The Atlanta Fly Fishing Club Mentoring Program was started by JD Forrester, a long time member of the club with the purpose of introducing new members to veteran members while also providing fly fishing expertise on local rivers like the Chattahoochee River. Our club is all about education and camaraderie and each of these new members are paired with a mentor that they can reach out to for advice in the future.

Members of the Atlanta Fly Fishing Club got together March 2nd at Paces Mill along the Chattahoochee River for a mentoring day.   Even though the weather was cold and cloudy with snow flurries we had an excellent turn out for our Mentor Day on the Hooch. Thanks to JD Forrester for organizing a great day.

AFFC Mentor Day - The Crew!

Members of the Atlanta Fly Fishing Club taken while at a February 2013 mentoring day. The club runs educational events for new members of the club to introduce them to new members while also providing fly fishing expertise on local rives like the Chattahoochee River

Following is his account:

“We were greeted with cold temps and spitting snow, but that did not keep the intrepid AFFC mentors and mentees from meeting. I think the session was a success with many things being learned and even some fish were caught.

AFFC Mentor Day

Jim and Linda Harrington in perfect camouflage gear. Who is the guy in the white hat?

I want to thank John Jenkins, Jimbo Jim McKean, Steve Miller, Jim Harrington, Linda Harrington, Ken Louko, David Nixon, Tom Shillock, Holly Shikano, and Terry Shikano for being great mentees. A special thanks to Dwight Thomas, Eric Davies, Ed Chamberlain, Milton Sams, Tyson Reed, Mike Williams and Bob Hansell for being great mentors!”

JD Forrester

AFFC Mentor Day

AFFC Mentor Day

Steven Miller watching Eric Davies.

AFFC Mentor Day

AFFC Mentor Day

AFFC Mentor Day

Jimbo Jim McKean rigging up as Tyson “Muley” Reed looks on.

AFFC Mentor Day

Uncle Miltie Sams (mentor?) being taught spey casting by Ken Louko.

AFFC Mentor Day

Ed Chamberlain working on casting with Holly Shikano, and Linda and Jim Harrington.